Legislature(2005 - 2006)

04/21/2005 04:40 PM House HES


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04:40:44 PM Start
04:40:59 PM Board of Education and Early Development
04:59:15 PM Professional Teaching Practices Commission
05:03:05 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
 HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                               
                         April 21, 2005                                                                                         
                           4:40 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Vic Kohring                                                                                                      
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
Representative Lesil McGuire                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Paul Seaton, Vice Chair                                                                                          
Representative Tom Anderson                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Board of Education and Early Development                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Esther Cox - Anchorage                                                                                                     
     Shirley Holloway - Anchorage                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Professional Teaching Practices Commission                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Bonnie C. Gaborik - North Pole                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 193                                                                                                              
"An Act  relating to the licensing,  regulation, enforcement, and                                                               
appeal  rights of  ambulatory surgical  centers, assisted  living                                                               
homes, child  care facilities,  child placement  agencies, foster                                                               
homes,  free-standing   birth  centers,  home   health  agencies,                                                               
hospices  or  agencies  providing  hospice  services,  hospitals,                                                               
intermediate   care  facilities   for   the  mentally   retarded,                                                               
maternity  homes,  nursing  facilities,  residential  child  care                                                               
facilities, residential psychiatric  treatment centers, and rural                                                               
health clinics; relating to criminal  history requirements, and a                                                               
registry, regarding certain  licenses, certifications, approvals,                                                               
and  authorizations  by  the  Department  of  Health  and  Social                                                               
Services;  making conforming  amendments;  and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 204                                                                                                              
"An Act  relating to the  prescription and use  of pharmaceutical                                                               
agents, including controlled substances, by optometrists."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ESTHER COX, Appointee                                                                                                           
to the Board of Education and Early Development                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  as appointee  to  the Board  of                                                               
Education and Early Development.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SHIRLEY HOLLOWAY, Appointee                                                                                                     
to the Board of Education and Early Development                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  as appointee  to  the Board  of                                                               
Education and Early Development.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
BONNIE GABORIK, Appointee                                                                                                       
to the Professional Teaching Practices Commission                                                                               
North Pole, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified as appointee  to the Professional                                                               
Teaching Practices Commission.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PEGGY WILSON called the  House Health, Education and Social                                                             
Services  Standing  Committee meeting  to  order  at 4:40:44  PM.                                                             
Representatives Kohring, Gardner, and  Cissna were present at the                                                               
call to  order.   Representative McGuire  arrived as  the meeting                                                               
was in progress.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^Board of Education and Early Development                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:40:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON   announced  the  first  order   of  business,  the                                                               
confirmation hearings  for appointees  to the Board  of Education                                                               
and   Early    Development   Professional    Teaching   Practices                                                               
Commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:42:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ESTHER  COX,  Appointee  to  the Board  of  Education  and  Early                                                               
Development,  said that  she feels  that  the board  has a  great                                                               
thing going  right now.   Each board  member has  experience that                                                               
meshes together into  a board that is able to  debate and discuss                                                               
issues and do  good things for the children in  Alaska.  She said                                                               
she has  only served  a couple  of years on  the board  and would                                                               
like to serve a full term.   In response to a question from Chair                                                               
Wilson, she  said it's true  that it takes  a couple of  years to                                                               
"get up  to par"  in the  position.   She noted  that one  of the                                                               
first jobs this particular board  had was to hire a commissioner,                                                               
and  she said  she  thinks the  board  did a  super  job in  that                                                               
regard.  In further response to  Chair Wilson, she said the board                                                               
has  not  taken  any  stand  on  "the  area  cost  differential,"                                                               
although  she said  the board  has  held some  discussion on  the                                                               
subject.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:44:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING  stated his  belief that  one of  the best                                                               
things  that can  be done  to improve  education statewide  is to                                                               
encourage alternative  methods, such  as home  schooling, private                                                               
education,  correspondence  school,  and  charter  schools.    He                                                               
inquired as to Ms. Cox's views are on that subject.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  COX said  that she  comes from  a district  that has  really                                                               
tried to  capitalize on alternative  education, and  she believes                                                               
in offering  families and children options  regarding educational                                                               
options.   She  stated, "The  same shoe  doesn't fit  everybody."                                                               
She said  she was involved in  public education for 33  years and                                                               
was happy to know that there were alternatives available.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING asked Ms. Cox  her opinion of the "voucher                                                               
system."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. COX  said she knows that  by and large, educators  are not in                                                               
favor of  the voucher system, and  she stated she is  not certain                                                               
"that's  the way  to go."    Notwithstanding that,  she said  she                                                               
would certainly give that option due consideration.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:45:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA said  that she is well aware  of the school                                                               
system's focus  on preparing  students for exit  exams and  on No                                                               
Child  Left  Behind criteria;  however,  she  said she  has  been                                                               
working  on  the  development  of  curricula  which  incorporates                                                               
career  ladders   and  stresses   workforce  development.     She                                                               
mentioned  that  the  health  field   is  currently  the  leading                                                               
employer in the  state and will continue to be  a strong force in                                                               
the future.   She stated a  desire to see all  children in school                                                               
graduate  to jobs  that they  love.   She asked  Ms. Cox  for her                                                               
views on the idea [of promoting career development courses].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. COX reminded  the committee that she is  the former principal                                                               
of the  King Career Center in  Anchorage.  She stated  her belief                                                               
that children  ought to  be able  to graduate  with some  kind of                                                               
skill.   She said working with  one's hands is often  looked down                                                               
upon, yet the  bottom line is that no matter  what a student goes                                                               
into, he/she will have to have some skill development.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:48:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked Ms. Cox if  she thinks that the schools across                                                               
Alaska  are equally  funded and  that the  students in  them have                                                               
equal opportunity.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. COX  responded that that's  a loaded question  and questioned                                                               
how  she would  answer  it.   She  stated that  there  is a  cost                                                               
differential; it  costs more money  to educate children  in rural                                                               
Alaska.   She said  that has  to be a  consideration.   What that                                                               
cost differential should be, she said she could not say.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON clarified  that she was not asking Ms.  Cox to state                                                               
a specific  number.  She  indicated that there is  "an unfairness                                                               
in some areas."  She offered an example.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. COX  said being on the  board has been a  good experience for                                                               
her, because  it has given her  a perspective as to  the needs in                                                               
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON remarked  that there  are schools  in her  district                                                               
that have not been able to buy a new textbook in 15 years.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:51:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING  moved to advance  the name of  Esther Cox                                                               
to the  joint session of  the House and  Senate.  There  being no                                                               
objection, the nomination of Esther  Cox for reappointment to the                                                               
Board of Education and Early Development was advanced.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:52:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHIRLEY HOLLOWAY, Appointee  to the Board of  Education and Early                                                               
Development,  said she  thinks she  shares similarities  with the                                                               
people on the  committee regarding the desire to  serve the state                                                               
and make a difference.  She  indicated that she has been involved                                                               
with [the  education of  children] for  42 years.   She  said she                                                               
brings  a  lot of  experience  to  the  board,  due to  both  her                                                               
successes and  failures.  She  said Alaska  has been good  to her                                                               
and serving on  the board is a  way to give back  and continue to                                                               
"help and support something that I  think is vital to our country                                                               
and our state - and that's public education."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:53:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  repeated  her previously  asked  question                                                               
regarding workforce development.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOLLOWAY  opined that  there is  nothing more  important than                                                               
developing pathways  and career  ladders for students.   Students                                                               
need a set  of skills to help  decide where they want  to go with                                                               
their lives.  She stated that  it is bothersome to her that there                                                               
is a  misconception that  No Child Left  Behind doesn't  fit into                                                               
this idea.   She said  the intent of No  Child Left Behind  is to                                                               
ensure that  children learn  to read,  write, and  compute, which                                                               
she pointed  out is basic  to a career  ladder.  She  stated that                                                               
some of the  best basic skills teachers  are vocational education                                                               
teachers because they  understand how to teach those  skills in a                                                               
relevant way.   She indicated that  when she worked on  the North                                                               
Slope, she helped develop a  Center for Occupational Training and                                                               
discovered that  reading math skills  could be  increased through                                                               
small  engine  repair  just  as  well  as  could  be  done  in  a                                                               
classroom.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:55:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOHRING expressed  his respect  for Ms.  Holloway                                                               
and her wealth of experience.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:56:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCGUIRE  moved to  advance  the  name of  Shirley                                                               
Holloway to  the joint session  of the  House and Senate.   There                                                               
being no  objection, the  nomination of  Shirley Holloway  to the                                                               
Board of Education and Early Development was advanced.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:57:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON passed the gavel to Representative McGuire.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:57:40 to 4:58:31.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^Professional Teaching Practices Commission                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:59:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCGUIRE announced the  next order of business, the                                                               
confirmation  hearing  for  the  appointee  to  the  Professional                                                               
Teaching Practices Commission.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
BONNIE GABORIK, Appointee to  the Professional Teaching Practices                                                               
Commission,  emphasized  how important  it  is  for the  teaching                                                               
profession to  police its own  ranks, both for the  protection of                                                               
the students and  parents and for the teachers.   She stated that                                                               
if nothing else,  teaching is about ethics.   She mentioned being                                                               
fascinated by a  presentation by Bonnie Barber  (ph) in Fairbanks                                                               
and  feeling that  she  wanted to  continue  being involved  with                                                               
education beyond  the classroom.   She said she has  a reputation                                                               
as an educator, as being fair  across the board, as being able to                                                               
make  tough  decisions  when necessary,  and  able  to  [maintain                                                               
confidentiality].   She said she thinks  she would do a  good job                                                               
on the commission.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:01:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCGUIRE thanked  Ms. Gaborik  and explained  that                                                               
the  committee would  wait  until it  had a  quorum  to make  the                                                               
motion to advance the appointment.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 5:01:31 to 5:02:02.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:02:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCGUIRE  moved to  advance the  name of  Bonnie C.                                                               
Gaborik to  the joint  session of  the House  and Senate.   There                                                               
being no  objection, the nomination  of Bonnie C. Gaborik  to the                                                               
Professional Teaching Practices Commission was advanced.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The House Health, Education and Social Services Standing                                                                        
Committee meeting was recessed at 5:03:05 PM to a call of the                                                                 
chair.  [The meeting reconvened April 22, 2005.]                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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